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Fundplat > Interviews > Are we hitting a green bubble or is Sustainable Investing here to stay?
Fundplat > Interviews > Are we hitting a green bubble or is Sustainable Investing here to stay?
Fundplat > Interviews > Are we hitting a green bubble or is Sustainable Investing here to stay?
Fundplat > Interviews > Are we hitting a green bubble or is Sustainable Investing here to stay?

Are we hitting a green bubble or is Sustainable Investing here to stay?

Anne-Laurence Roucher
Anne-Laurence Roucher
Deputy CEO, Head of Private Equity and Natural Capital
Mirova, Paris
mirova.com

08.03.2022

Dear Ms. Roucher, Mirova is a pioneer in ESG Investing, what should investors be thinking about when they invest in sustainable solutions?

They should be clear about their expectations, before looking at matching them with the right solutions providers (ESG integration, Impact approach in ESG, focus on specific theme in E, S or G space, etc.) more funda­men­tally. I think that these days remind us that we need to defend the values in which we believe (cf. Ukrainian war). Investments with an ESG mindset are a way to align our invest­ment «power» with our values. In this respect it is important to look for ESG invest­ment solutions that have a real impact / addi­tio­nality for our world.

The interest in Impact is becoming much larger but how do you really measure it?

Three key points about Impact: it is real if it is i) inten­tional (and there­fore here to stay), ii) addi­tional (contri­butes to change) and iii) measurable measure­ments should encompass quali­tative analysis / reporting to give a quali­tative overview, and also quanti­tative measurement of physical impacts (such as carbon foot­print, bio­diversity foot­print, impact on diver­sity, etc.). Quanti­tative data don’t need to be provided on too many topics, what matters is that they are relevant and enable to draw compa­risons (within a given sector, compared to global economy, etc.).

Investor appetite for ESG seems to be growing unabated. Do you see a green bubble appearing?

The secular growth trend is here to stay ; then there can be short term green bubbles effects, this is why active mana­gement is so relevant (trimming or adding the positions depending on market valuations).

Is ESG a demand from all investors or which groups are more interested in ESG?

Overall both individual investors and institu­tional investors show a lot of interest, with variations in the investment strategies they prefer. Indi­vidual investors have strong interest for thematic strategies, whereas insti­tu­tional investors are more sophis­ticated and open to a larger set of investment solutions with different risk / return profiles, and also exposure to illiquid assets.

ESG has become mainstream, what will be the future development (next steps)?

ESG becomes mainstream, the next challenge is to make Impact investing main­stream, that is what is needed in terms of capital reallocation to finance the shift towards a more sustainable world.

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Anne-Laurence Roucher is a graduate of the French business school ESCP (École supérieure de commerce de Paris). She began her career in 1999 as a Project Manager for a company aiming to help get people out of work for a long period back into employment in the catering industry, thereby recon­ciling social and economic perfor­mance. In 2000, Roucher joined the mana­gement consulting firm AT Kearney as a Business Analyst and then as a Senior Associate with financial insti­tutions. In this role she worked on a wide array of strategic, deve­lopment and restruc­turing projects for asset managers, insurers, private equity firms and merchant and investment banks. Anne-Laurence Roucher joined Natixis in 2005 before becoming Head of Strategic Planning at Natixis Asset Mana­gement in 2007. While in this position she played a pivotal role in high­lighting the impor­tance of respon­sible financing. This strategic priority led to the creation of a business unit within Natixis Asset Mana­gement dedi­cated to respon­sible investment, which later developed into Mirova. In 2021, Anne-Laurence Roucher became Head of Private Equity and Natural Capital, a business unit bringing together Mirova’s investment acti­vities in natural capital and private equity, with the aim of building a coherent plat­form in Europe and in emerging countries.

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